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gotbking Fifth Gear And Gone

Number of posts: 340 Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 18th 2009, 03:49 | |
| After finding out that Suzuki won't cover my bike because it's out of warranty, I went ahead and bought the parts needed and remedy the issue myself. Parts needed: clutch cover gasket and suzuki cement lock 1303 = 15 dollars   My steps/process: I tilt the bike more towards the kickstand side so I won't have to drain or replace the oil by putting a few pieces of wood under the rear tire:  Loosen the clutch cover bolts and remove clutch cover:   Loosen the clutch spring bolts and remove the clutch pressure disk:   These six black bolts are the clutch spring support bolts that needed to be loctite and re-torque to remedy the issue:  Removing the clutch spring support bolts:  Update (just in case this step is needed): I didn't put the bike in gear so the clutch sleeve hub was also turning as I was removing the clutch spring support bolts with a socket. You can slide this little rod with blue paint (clutch push piece) out and put another socket on the black nut (clutch sleeve hub nut) behind it to hold the clutch sleeve hub for more friction:   Not sure if it Suzuki used any form of loctite or cement lock initially but this what the clutch spring support bolts look like after removal:  After that, clean the clutch spring support bolts real good, put some suzuki locking cement 1303 or equivalent on it and screw it back on. Torque those bolts at 16.5 lbs. Then put the clutch pressure disk back on and screw on the clutch spring bolts to hold it in place. Torque those bolts at 7 lbs. Last step is slap on the new clutch cover gasket on the clutch cover, put it on and screw the clutch cover bolts back on. Torque those bolts at 7 lbs.
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Lefty Fifth Gear And Gone


Number of posts: 1056 Age: 52 Location: On. Canada Registration date: 2008-12-24
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 18th 2009, 05:02 | |
| hmmmm. I thought it was the outer screws that were coming lose? I checked the picture and it seems your got the right bolts. |
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lasermax Fifth Gear And Gone


Number of posts: 549 Age: 42 Location: Michigan Registration date: 2008-08-28
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 18th 2009, 08:42 | |
| Were any of your bolts loose when you got to em? That's total crap that Suzuki wouldn't fix it when it has a service bulletin on the problem. It shouldn't matter how many miles you have or how long it has been. But like you said, $15 and 30 minutes of your time and you have piece of mind. I'm gonna do mine as well now. Thanks for doing the article and posting the pics bro, I'm sure it will help many a fellow B-Kinger on here. This should be made a sticky now! |
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gotbking Fifth Gear And Gone

Number of posts: 340 Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 18th 2009, 18:33 | |
| | Lefty wrote: | hmmmm. I thought it was the outer screws that were coming lose? I checked the picture and it seems your got the right bolts. |
Yeah, according to SB 199, it's the 'clutch spring support bolt' (#1 in diagram) so it's the inner bolts.
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gotbking Fifth Gear And Gone

Number of posts: 340 Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 18th 2009, 18:44 | |
| | lasermax wrote: | | Were any of your bolts loose when you got to em? That's total crap that Suzuki wouldn't fix it when it has a service bulletin on the problem. But like you said, $15 and 30 minutes of your time and you have piece of mind. Thanks for doing the article and posting the pics bro, I'm sure it will help many a fellow B-Kinger on here. This should be made a sticky now! |
None of the bolts were loose on mine. I agree with you on it's 'total crap' that Suzuki wouldn't fix it free of charge since it affects all 08' Kings and Busas. They should think about doing it just for good faith and customer loyalty reasons instead, they chose the immediate profit margin route. And you're welcome bro, hopefully this article can help others doing the same fix to remedy SB 199. "Piece of mind" is right, it's no longer on the back of my head when I ride the King now.
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chadrob30



Number of posts: 1376 Age: 37 Location: 35˚18.544'N 94˚25.843'W Registration date: 2008-07-03
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 18th 2009, 18:58 | |
| Great job on the write up. It gives us non-mechanics a little bit of confidence in doing the job ourselves, lol. Suzuki is not known for their willingness to do warranty work or do anything on good faith. Of course there are exceptional dealers out there that DO care about customers, but I guess they are a rare breed. I'm going to sticky this thread in the Maintenance and Mechanical area so it will stay at the top. |
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gotbking Fifth Gear And Gone

Number of posts: 340 Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 18th 2009, 20:21 | |
| Thanks chad and thanks for moving the thread to the mechanic section, it's definitely more fitting. Not sure why that didn't pop into my head last night.  |
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lasermax Fifth Gear And Gone


Number of posts: 549 Age: 42 Location: Michigan Registration date: 2008-08-28
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 18th 2009, 21:22 | |
| HOLY COW, I decided to pull my clutch cover this evening just to check, and ALL MY CLUTCH SPRING SUPPORT BOLTS WERE LOOSE!!!! Every last one. I was so shocked that I had to log back in here to see if I read correctly, and yes, these are the ones in question. WT F'in F! Oh well, I caught it, it was free, and it was with the help from Gotbking and others here. Thank you! Great advice on tilting the bike more so no oil comes out, I used a metal plate under my kickstand and kept my tires on my driveway and the kickstand on my grass, which is an inch or so lower. I carefully pulled off the cover with my fingers after taking out the cover bolts and the gasket let go still in one piece, adhering to only the cover itself and not the motor. I'm heading back out to locktight em back in and button the cover back up. I do feel much better knowing it's no longer an issue on my bike, but DAMN! By the way I have 7300 miles on my B-King. |
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Lefty Fifth Gear And Gone


Number of posts: 1056 Age: 52 Location: On. Canada Registration date: 2008-12-24
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 19th 2009, 04:22 | |
| I made a appointment with the dealer and took my bike in. They said they needed to have it for 24hrs for the loctite to dry. I said nice to tell me now after I drove 2hrs to get here. I asked for a demo bike and they said no. So I did it myself (none were lose). I sent the dealer a e-mail saying I did it and they called me ,to ask if any were lose and how many km I had on the bike. Seems they have to fill out a job sheet on it for Suzuki. Guess they will charge Suzuki a hr for the work I did. And then he tells me I can have the clutch cover gasket that they ordered for the job. |
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gotbking Fifth Gear And Gone

Number of posts: 340 Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos June 19th 2009, 14:22 | |
| | Lefty wrote: | | They said they needed to have it for 24hrs for the loctite to dry. |
Not sure why the dealer needed the bike for that long. According the directions on the back of the recommended Suzuki thread lock that I bought (Suzuki Thread Lock 1303), the lock should be cure anywhere between 25 minutes to 3 hours. I could double check though.
Update: I double check it and the cure time for the thread lock is between 25 minutes to 3 hours.
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new b Up Into Fourth Gear


Number of posts: 139 Registration date: 2008-05-05
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos July 4th 2009, 12:03 | |
| Got mine opened and cleaned last night.Nothing loose nor any loctite on the bolts from factory. Above instructions are right on the money, just follow step by step. One thing I did differently was, the King was on first gear before I leaned as instructed, when the clutch sleeve hub started turning, I was expecting the gear will stop it, it did, however, the torque was driving rear tire too so I had my daughter step on the rear brake, all good. No another wrench needed. Clean and no mess and now I feel better. I used Loctite 243 and new gasket but no bonding agent. Hope this helps.. I am not very handy. This project's difficulty level is 2 out 5. (if you can change your oil, you can do this) |
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PJV Got It To Third Gear

Number of posts: 96 Registration date: 2008-03-31
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos July 14th 2009, 13:03 | |
| Installing the Clutch Cover back on, New Gasket? Sealer? My bike right now looks like it has some blue silcone looking material sticking out. Thanks |
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new b Up Into Fourth Gear


Number of posts: 139 Registration date: 2008-05-05
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos July 14th 2009, 16:30 | |
| I have the new gasket but no sealer. So far so good.. |
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mal Site Donor

Number of posts: 266 Location: wales/cardiff. Registration date: 2008-08-17
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos August 28th 2009, 13:35 | |
| local mechanic, sorted this out for me today,all support bolts were only hand tight,no damage done, just in time by all accounts, it dont bare thing about what could have happened,showed him the pic's from this site,so a big thank you to gotbking, the pic's were very helpfull, cheers mal. |
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gotbking Fifth Gear And Gone

Number of posts: 340 Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: SB 199 (Abnormal Clutch Noise) fix with photos August 29th 2009, 15:49 | |
| You're welcome mal. Glad you got it done before it's too late. |
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